Have any of you heard that the slavs (and celts) were the real creators of European civilization? Of course, not in a cultural forms, but in an etho-colonial form.

For, has anyone heard of Great Lechia - A federation of Tribes United Loosly Together in the Area North of the Danube and East of the Rhine?

Based on the accounts of many early medieval historians, it would seem that the Slavs were the people who at the beginning of the 12th century BC caused severe damage in Anatolia, Greece, the Middle East and Egypt. Slavic migrations to the south were to start after the great battle in the Dołęża Valley (i.e. the battle on the Tollense River) from around 1250 BCE, which was discovered relatively recently and which was already unofficially recognized as the greatest battle of antiquity.


The Slav was also supposed to be the Ariowist (Ariowit) with whom Caesar fought for Gaul in 58 BCE. and whom he defeated at the Battle of the Vosges.


In antiquity, the theory of the existence of a powerful federation of Slavs is supported by, for example, studies of the versions of the bones of fallen warriors. In the Battle of the Tollense River, it turns out that modern Slavic genes have a surprisingly large number of fighting warriors, and interestingly ... there are no versions of Germanic genes at all, which could mean that the Germans never existed, and what Tacitus called "Germania" ", these were Slavic lands, named after the combination of two words: Ger - meaning the diminutive of the word Gor meaning Góra (Mountain) and Man - meaning Man. In other words, the term "German" means the same as - Man from beyond the Mountains, only in the Lechic-Slavic language.


I wonder what You think about it, in any case (if you want to) I can list the entire list of the rulers of Great Lechia in chronological order, starting from the 18th century BC.

I would be wary of ascribing modern ethnographical labels to ancient deoxyribonucleic acid findings as this is normally just guesswork at best and quite often misleading. Admittedly dna data can point to similarities and clusters in given groups but that’s about it. In the case of the Weltzin battlefield excavation, however, then the labelling of the bones of the slain warriors found there as ‘Slavic’ is potentially counter-productive in terms of any evidence of their martial prowess. Quite apart from anything else, they are the bones of the battle’s losers after all.
 
That said – the view of ancient Sarmatian cavalry ranging far and wide across Europe is a tradition which has been promoted in many quarters. For instance, in his 2004 film King Arthur, the Hollywood producer Jerry Bruckheimer hypothesised that Arthur’s knights of the round table were in fact Sarmatian cavalrymen. Bruckheimer and screenwriter David Franzoni referenced the 1995 book From Scythia to Camelot: A Radical Reinterpretation of the Legends of King Arthur, the Knights of the Round Table, and the Holy Grail by anthropologist Covington Scott-Littleton and mythologist Linda Malcor. Their book suggested that the entire Arthurian legend itself had its origins in Scythia from whence the Sarmatians came.
 
Neither did the Scythian connection begin there. The Declaration of Arbroath in 1320, for example, was a letter addressed to Pope John XXII at Avignon from Scottish magnates supporting Robert the Bruce’s claim to the crown of an independent Scotland. It opens:

'Scimus, Sanctissime Pater et Domine, et ex antiquorum gestis et libris Colligimus quod inter Ceteras naciones egregias nostra scilicet Scottorum nacio multis preconijs fuerit insignita, que de Maiori Schithia per Mare tirenum et Columpnas Herculis transiens et in Hispania inter ferocissimas gentes per multa temporum curricula Residens a nullis quantumcumque barbaricis poterat allicubi gentibus subiugari.'

'We know, Holiest Father and Lord, and from ancient deeds and collected books that among outstanding nations our clearly Scottish nation has been praised in many writings, that from Great Scythia via the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules they voyaged and in Spain among the most ferocious people they resided for a considerable time, yet no nation anywhere no matter how brutal could subjugate them.'

Thus this ‘roman national’ of Scotland claimed that the Scots were the descendants of Scythians.

Vizzer wrote:

Thus this ‘roman national’ of Scotland claimed that the Scots were the descendants of Scythians.

Then again other legends by the Scots themselves claim that they were a Semitic people - descendants of the lost Israelite tribe of Dan - who fled the Middle East, via Spain and Ireland to Scotland, carrying with them Jacob's Pillow; the legendary stone on which the prophet laid his head when he had his vision of God's plans for mankind. As the Stone of Destiny, the Stone of Scone, the An Lia Fàil, this is now kept in Edinburgh Castle alongside the Scottish crown jewels. What is usually ignored is the rather inconvenient geologic fact that the current stone is a lump of Old Red Sandstone that was almost certainly originally quarried from somewhere in the vicinity of Perth. However to be fair even as long ago as the 13th century there were rumours that the real Jacob's Pillow was safely hidden away, and thus the stone Edward I stole and took to Westminster Abbey (and which in 1996 was returned to Scotland) was a just a decoy anyway.

Vizzer wrote:

I would be wary of ascribing modern ethnographical labels to ancient deoxyribonucleic acid findings as this is normally just guesswork at best and quite often misleading. Admittedly dna data can point to similarities and clusters in given groups but that’s about it. In the case of the Weltzin battlefield excavation, however, then the labelling of the bones of the slain warriors found there as ‘Slavic’ is potentially counter-productive in terms of any evidence of their martial prowess. Quite apart from anything else, they are the bones of the battle’s losers after all.
 
That said – the view of ancient Sarmatian cavalry ranging far and wide across Europe is a tradition which has been promoted in many quarters. For instance, in his 2004 film King Arthur, the Hollywood producer Jerry Bruckheimer hypothesised that Arthur’s knights of the round table were in fact Sarmatian cavalrymen. Bruckheimer and screenwriter David Franzoni referenced the 1995 book From Scythia to Camelot: A Radical Reinterpretation of the Legends of King Arthur, the Knights of the Round Table, and the Holy Grail by anthropologist Covington Scott-Littleton and mythologist Linda Malcor. Their book suggested that the entire Arthurian legend itself had its origins in Scythia from whence the Sarmatians came.

But the battle in the Tollense Valley was fought for the most part between the Slavic tribes themselves - some won, others lost. And those who lost their lands were probably those who plowed all Greece, Anatolia, the Middle East and Egypt shortly after, and were called by historiography the "Peoples of the Sea". They founded kingdoms in those lands that have largely fallen, while those established in Palestine and Libya have survived. After all, the biblical Philistines are nothing but a Slavic tribe called Peleset (plst). This word, placed on the reliefs of Pharaoh Ramses III, was perhaps the first historical record of the name ... Poland and Poles.


Fragment of the relief of Ramses III with the Peleset tribe - Poland








Below is a list of the peoples participating in the Battle of the Tollense Valley - the red color marks the people taking part in the battle, which are imposed on the modern population groups.


https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UOAY3OAxIzY/Wy1laCjkjGI/AAAAAAAABUA/wQY-QDg_Ip4f2xnaOhWgtVFG9hSgUFwJgCLcBGAs/s1600/toll.wez.graf.png


As for the Dan tribe mentioned by Meles Meles, they were also Slavic people. The name Dan (Danuna - dnjn) can be related to the area of the Danube River, as well as to the older name of the Dnieper River, which is called Danu. So it was the Slavic-Lechite Danujian people (on the Zyndrama mountain in Maszkowice in Poland, there is a stone wall from 3500 years ago, which certainly belonged to this tribe, and can be identified with our highlanders).

After settling in Palestine for a long time, the culture of the Philistines and the Danun people developed in symbiosis, taking into account that the Philistine culture was then dominant in Canaan, as evidenced by the names of the heroes of the Jewish Biblinic tradition, e.g. Deborah, Lappidot or Samson. And this means that the local elite of the tribes of Israel were philistinized very quickly in order to belong to a higher culture, which the Philistines and the Danites undoubtedly represented at that time.

Besides, judge Samson was a Danita himself, and the whole story of him in the Old Testament Judges takes place either in the land of the Dan tribe or in the land of the Philistines. I wrote more about it at my place and if anyone would like to read it, please do not hesitate to:


https://grotaragnara.blogspot.com/2022/06/historia-zycia-wszechswiata-wszelkiej_25.html


As a curiosity, I would like to add that the headgear of the Sea Peoples is similar to those still used by our highlanders, which also gives food for thought.



















A fragment of the "Janosik" series about a folk hero - Juraj Janosik, who at the beginning of the 18th century was the leader of a group of highland robbers marauding the Tatra Mountains - robbed the rich and gave to the poor (like Robin Hood) and this is how the legend was created.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E29po4qNKM&t=108s