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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 11:27 | |
| As for the outrageous Caligula Regina dramatica maxima He honoured his horse A real tour de force! |
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ferval Censura
Posts : 2602 Join date : 2011-12-27
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 11:31 | |
| Pablo Picasso Was an artist of class so What would he have thought o' An eponymous auto?
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 11:33 | |
| For his back-ache John F Kennedy Was in permanent search of a remedy Saying, "This pain that confines me to bed I need like a hole in the head!" |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 12:28 | |
| Of Prime Ministers Percival, Spencer Though not great wasn't one of the denser So it's a pity he's now only rated For being assassinated |
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Islanddawn Censura
Posts : 2163 Join date : 2012-01-05 Location : Greece
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 13:31 | |
| Then there was Presley Who loved his hamburgers immensely And one morning as he sat Died where he shat. |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 15:43 | |
| Ayatollah Khomeini Did not like a girl to be Too wild or too opinionated And definitely never too X-rated. |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 17:13 | |
| Of His Holiness John Paul the Second It has often been mischievously reckoned That because of all those he made "saint" There are more of them now than there ain't |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Wed 09 Apr 2014, 21:05 | |
| Sir Isaac Newton Wouldn't brook a dispute on An apple's pure suavity When obeying his law of gravity |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 08:09 | |
| Deleted.
One shouldn't really try to make Joseph Stalin humorous.
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Triceratops Censura
Posts : 4377 Join date : 2012-01-05
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 09:14 | |
| Maria Millar To the naughty pillar!! As she has no defences For her over-claimed expenses |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 09:48 | |
| Anthony Wedgwood Benn Was not like other men He gave up being nobility For the sake of his credibility |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 11:25 | |
| Young master Lambert Simnel Won't ever feature in a hymnal But his loss to the world of king-making Proved a boon at least to pie-baking |
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ferval Censura
Posts : 2602 Join date : 2011-12-27
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 12:46 | |
| In Knossos Sir Arthur Evans Looked round and muttered "Good Heavens The Minoans built with the best of intent But it'll be much improved by a ton of cement". |
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 12:55 | |
| Jeanne d’Arc la pucelle d’Orléans A dit, "c’est trop longue une guerre de cent ans. Je dois prendre l’épée, défendre mon pays Et vaincre les méchants Anglais." |
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Vizzer Censura
Posts : 1851 Join date : 2012-05-12
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 13:11 | |
| That's impressive Meles, one in French.
Edmund Bentley Penned comic verse gently Of famous folk whom he knew Would suit his eponymous Clerihew |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 13:12 | |
| - Meles meles wrote:
- Jeanne d’Arc la pucelle d’Orléans
A dit, "c’est trop longue une guerre de cent ans. Je dois prendre l’épée, défendre mon pays Et vaincre les méchants Anglais." Show-off. PS I liked yours too, Trike! |
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 13:39 | |
| It's actually a very good way to improve my French ... I often do it with songs: One verse of, say, "The sun has got his hat on" and then I try and do it in French. The translation bit isn't hard but trying to maintain the rhymes and metre is the tricky bit:
"Le soleil a son chapeau, hip hip hip hooree Le soleil a son chapeau, il arrive aujourd'hui. On peut être content, hip hip hip hooray Le soleil a son chapeau, et il viens pour jouer."
But the dog hates it when I sing, he rolls his eyes and looks at me with the sort of withering contempt that I imagine a teenager would look at their father when he tries to do a Madonna number. |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 13:56 | |
| - Meles meles wrote:
But the dog hates it when I sing, he rolls his eyes and looks at me with the sort of withering contempt that I imagine a teenager would look at their father when he tries to do a Madonna number. I'm sure you're imagining it, MM. OK, three gold stars for the first chap to come up with one in Latin. (I was going to say, or in Greek, but ID could cheat and we'd none of us be any the wiser.) |
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Islanddawn Censura
Posts : 2163 Join date : 2012-01-05 Location : Greece
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 14:02 | |
| Nah Temp, as Greek is a very easy language to rhyme it would be no challenge at all. Edit. I mean no challenge to do a clerihew, not the cheating bit. Not that I ever would, of course. |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 14:18 | |
| I am sure the humour as specified in the rules hinges on the use of "phrases" in "the subject matter and wording are often humorously contrived in order to achieve a rhyme, including the use of phrases in Latin, French and other non-English languages".
Mind you, I suppose if you stick a lot of such phrases together you end up with a foreign language Clerihew right enough. But I can't help thinking ...
The original Clerihew Thought he would be merry who Using several brogues Might lampoon his rogues
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 14:40 | |
| Deleted - not a proper one.
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 14:47 | |
| Julius Caesar ingressus in navem, Vincere exertus in Britanniam. Quia "veni, vidi, vici, sed ego sum frigus. Est etiam pluvia, ubi siccitas pergimus." |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 14:52 | |
| Very nicely done indeed, MM! |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 15:51 | |
| Galileo Had to lay low 'Cos he said the System Tychonic Was daft, and bugged him something chronic. |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 16:27 | |
| The seventh Pope Urban Must have been on the bourbon When he said "The silly things you say, oh!" And sentenced Galileo |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 17:25 | |
| This one won't do; It's not a proper Clerihew. Have deleted it with some sorrow Will have another go tomorrow.
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 17:51 | |
| Poor old Aeschylus Epitomised kakόtychos When hit by a testudinidae From which he died, didn't he? |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 17:53 | |
| Ah, Gawd, another show-off.
(Only jealous - very good, nordmann.) |
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ferval Censura
Posts : 2602 Join date : 2011-12-27
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 18:33 | |
| "I will fly to the sky" said Icarus The crowd said "Don't be ridiculous Do you think we're really that credulous?". "And don't land on me" said Daedalus. |
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 19:15 | |
| Samuel Johnson that great man of letters, Had pronunciation that appalled his betters. "I admit my diction's hairy, But at least I wrote a good dictionary". |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
Posts : 7223 Join date : 2011-12-25
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 19:50 | |
| Oh you cheat!
"Bentley said that a true clerihew has to have the name "at the end of the first line", as the whole point was the skill in rhyming awkward names."
You've invented a Melehew! |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 20:04 | |
| The orator Cato, Asked could the tomato Be proterozoic, Replied "No". How Stoic! |
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 21:14 | |
| - nordmann wrote:
- Oh you cheat!
"Bentley said that a true clerihew has to have the name "at the end of the first line", as the whole point was the skill in rhyming awkward names."
You've invented a Melehew! Then I'm afraid I've done quite a few other Melihews too But if you insist: That great man of letters Samuel Johnson Sold his dictionary at four pounds ten - a bon sum. But he never made it amongst the poets, Because it's thought he suffered from Tourette's. |
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Vizzer Censura
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 22:21 | |
| Ieyasu Tokugawa Charged his master by the hour When Mikado's coffers were run and done He settled for hereditary Shogun |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 23:02 | |
| With regard to the late William Gladstone There's a fact one just cannot bemoan Each night after work in the lobby Saving women who fell was his hobby |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Thu 10 Apr 2014, 23:17 | |
| President Abraham Lincoln Was famously not one for drinkin' Saying "My ultimate pleasure in life Is to go to a play with my wife!" |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 07:20 | |
| Dominic Mancini Was a right old meanie; He told fibs about our Rich Lying, spying, Italian snitch.
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 07:42 | |
| - Meles meles wrote:
Then I'm afraid I've done quite a few other Melihews too But if you insist:
I liked your Melehews, Melehews melehews. But mark how ingrained are our habits of obedience to authority: you immediately put an embarrassed emoticon and rewrite your offering, and I promptly delete all my offending non-Clerihewic rhymes. Oh, poo. Here is the fifth rule of poetry composition: 5. EXPERIMENT. Is there a poetic “rule” you just don’t like? Try breaking it. Then, look for other rules to bend. Often, the poets who are remembered and quoted are the ones who learned to do something well and then took it in a new direction. But it undoubtedly is a good idea to check your spelling for embarrassing mistakes ( me, not you). But I digress and so risk possible (w)rapped knuckles. Back to toiling over our Clerihews.
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 08:30 | |
| Often, the poets who are remembered and quoted are the ones who learned to do something well and then took it in a new direction.
True, but not a lofty aspiration Bentley would have approved of, I think (hence lending his middle name to the exercise and not the one he actually used), though when clerihews work they can indeed be very memorable in their own right. Think of the clerihew as a very English variation of the haiku - equally strict with the compositional rules (if relaxed about scansion, as long as it's disrupted for comic effect of course) but unlike the Japanese thingy designed principally to amuse and inform, not elevate the soul.
Actually come to think of it, that's exactly what amusing and informative clerihews achieve when they work, so scrub that last bit - think of them as English haikus!
Songwriter John Lennon Who frequently when on Substances pharmaceutical Churned out stuff quite musical |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 09:22 | |
| I'm working on a cracker about Ignatius Loyola.
Ola - Lovely Lola - told ya - hold ya -
Just give me time.
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 11:16 | |
| Of Gregori Rasputin There is no disputin' Though of misplaced certitude He'd a "Never Say Die!" attitude |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 11:25 | |
| That Inigo Lopez de Loyola Said, "Don't you lot forget what I've told ya; Perinde ac cadaver is my spiritual way, So shut up moaning and simply OBEY!" "I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ." |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 11:57 | |
| There was a man called Geoffrey Hurst Whose "phantom goal" the Germans cursed But would his inclusion in Teutonic demonology Been wholly avoided with modern goal-line technology? |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
Posts : 6895 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 12:32 | |
| Joint rulers Ferdinand and Isabella Found Torquemada a decent sort of fella; Their autos-da-fe became quite legendary - Shows more popular even than Glastonbury! |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 12:49 | |
| Their lad, young Chris Columbus Caused the locals a bit of a rumpus When he landed on Plana Cayas And asked them where Mumbai is |
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Temperance Virgo Vestalis Maxima
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 13:09 | |
| OK - I've got El Draco and wacko, but I can't for life of me make Grande y Felicisima Armada and Duke of Medina Sidonia scan - so I'm going in my garden. Perhaps MM will come up with a suitable Melehew. |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 13:13 | |
| A pirate called Edward Teach Had a beard that was black as bleach And if this sounds out of place Try saying that to his face! |
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 14:17 | |
| Nordmann's right they are like doing Haikus because of the need to keep it succinct and minimalist. Today I'm struggling:
Lord Baden-Powell Liked to rough towel With the chaps in the Mafeking redoubts. So he promptly founded the scouts.
Which had to be boiled down from:
Lord Baden-Powell Liked to rough towel With the chaps in the Mafeking redoubts. Ladysmith was relieved, But then on home leave, He promptly formed the boys scouts.
Which scans much better but is another melehew and not a clerihew. I'm off to do some ironing and while I'm standing there pressing the sheets something might come to mind. |
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nordmann Nobiles Barbariæ
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| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 14:24 | |
| Succinct, yes, but thankfully not necessarily very worthy or deep analyses of the subject's biographical details. They need only a passing reference to one such detail to fit the Bentley rules.
The exciteable John the Baptist Was high on King Herod's blacklist Whose daughter, it's often now said, Caused Johnny to quite lose his head
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 14:35 | |
| Very good.
Yes in just three lines - since as you pointed out one can't sneak anything much into the first line other than the name - it's hard to develop much plot and detailed history. |
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Meles meles Censura
Posts : 5119 Join date : 2011-12-30 Location : Pyrénées-Orientales, France
| Subject: Re: Clerihew Who? Fri 11 Apr 2014, 15:39 | |
| - Temperance wrote:
- OK - I've got El Draco and wacko, but I can't for life of me make Grande y Felicisima Armada and Duke of Medina Sidonia scan - so I'm going in my garden.
Et voila! ... Well when doing 2 hours of ironing there's not much else with which to occupy the brain, though they're not particularly good: The Duke of Medina Sidonia Really could not have been lonlier. "I'm a soldier not a sailor so I'd really much rather, Not be at sea, and in command of the Spanish Armada". Meanwhile, Lord Howard of Effingham Was rather partial to quaffing ham. But he refused to eat jambon Lest it came from Palma, the Don. |
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