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PostSubject: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 14:51

I am opening an off shoot of the Wolf Hall discussion because the TV series has used so many excellent backdrops to the events. In fact my mind has sometimes wandered to wondering where each scene was filmed. A website says that 30 locations in England have been used -  wish I knew which was where. Whoever did the preparation for this has done a terrific job. ..... it can't be easy to pitch a filmed sequence in a plausible location. I thought a thread might offer a place for thoughts on past successes- and perhaps errors.
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 14:58

Montacute House is one of the locations, Priscilla;
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It is a National Trust property and open to the public.

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/montacute-house/
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 15:02

Also in Somerset, another National Trust property, Barrington Court;

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http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/barrington-court/
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 15:08

Lacock Abbey in Wiltshire, again it is National Trust. Lacock has also appeared in The Other Boleyn Girl and a couple of Harry Potters;

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http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/lacock/
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 15:13

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 15:17

Great Chalfield Manor in Wiltshire, again The Other Boleyn Girl used this as a setting,

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http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/great-chalfield-manor/
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyFri 06 Feb 2015, 15:47

Wolf Hall itself has been overbuilt and could not be used, being Victorian rather than Tudor;

http://www.burbage-wiltshire.co.uk/historic/wolfhall.html
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptySat 07 Feb 2015, 11:52

Thanks for the above - what beautiful places we still have. I ought really to have married that guy, Mr Nat Trust and really lived the life. How about the WH drama interiors which have been stunning, Trike? I read that   tennis ball feet were fitted to all furniture that was moved or brought in to such places. Have not spotted one filmed yet. Oh dear - how one's mind wanders during those telling silences. ......
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyMon 09 Feb 2015, 12:04

From what I can gather, Priscilla, the houses above were also used for interior shots.

Wells in Somerset was also used;

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Used for many of the street scenes in Wolf Hall, this atmospheric medieval city is the smallest in England. Pybus and his team were given unparalleled access to the cathedral. “We used the cathedral library, which has never been filmed in before,” he says. “It had books in it that were 400-500 years old. People can also explore the high street and enjoy the teashops and the Bishop's Palace next to the cathedral.”
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptySun 15 Feb 2015, 13:43

I'm rather surprised that, at least for the exterior shots, the makers of 'Wolf Hall' never used those four famous, tried-and-tested Tudor locations (... all within just one hour's drive from central London too): Penshurst Place (Kent), Hever Castle (Kent again), Leeds Castle (Kent yet again), and Hampton Court (Middlesex, but only 30mins from Shepperton Studios). I thought those four were rather de rigeur for any Tudor drama since the late 1960s (indeed one often saw all four in the same film):

A Man For All All Seasons (1966)
Anne of a Thousand Days (1969)
Mary Queen of Scots (1971)
Elizabeth R - BBC drama series (1971)
Henry VIII and his six wives (1972)
Lady Jane (1986)
Elizabeth (1998)
The Virgin Queen (2005)
Elizabeth: The Golden Age (2007)
The Other Boleyn Girl (2008)

.... and of course between them those four buildings have actually witnessed many of the key events that are now being re-played as historic drama/entertainment ... so actually they're the authentic, real thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyMon 16 Feb 2015, 12:50

One of the pleasures of this production has been  fresh settings that delight. Another popular location is Haddon Hall in Derbyshire.  The really ancient parts have been denied public visits by Mr Alf. N. Safety - damn him. From the worn steps and stone flooring in that wing it served generations or centuries without being an identified hazard spot; a more likely hazard would have been 'Faith of the Month' times.
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptyMon 16 Feb 2015, 13:12

Filming in Belgium was considered at one point (Belgium having been the location shoot of The White Queen )



http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/18/wolf-hall-england-bbc-film-belgium-hilary-mantel-praise
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptySat 04 Jun 2022, 21:40

Meles meles wrote:
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Both films also made use of the Priory Church of St Bartholomew the Great in London’s Smithfield. Great St Bart’s (as the church is sometimes called) was also used for Shakespeare in Love (1998) and many other period pieces for film and television. Yesterday's Platinum Jubilee Service of Thanksgiving in Christopher Wren's masterpiece St Paul's Cathedral got me to thinking of the churches in London which survived the Great Fire of London in 1666 unlike the old St Paul's which was destroyed. The 12th century Great St Bart's was one such and when the Victorians effected a restoration program on it they seemed to appreciate its architectural value and mercifully applied a light touch.
 
50 yards away, and sitting adjacent to its hospital namesake, is the Church of St Bartholomew the Less*. Its exterior is 15th century and would be instantly recognisable to, say, John Kempe who was Bishop of London at the time of the death of King Henry V. Kempe played a significant role supporting the infant Henry VI during his minority and would later be created cardinal and promoted to Archbishop of Canterbury. He was also appointed Lord Chancellor of England. John was no doubt mindful of his predecessor Simon Sudbury who had also gone from being Bishop of London to Archbishop of Canterbury and Lord Chancellor. Sudbury had been unlucky enough to be Chancellor during the Peasants’ Revolt of 1381 and was dragged from saying mass in chapel and beheaded. When 70 years later a similar rebellion led by Jack Cade broke out, the rebels entered London’s Guildhall and seized the Lord High Treasurer** along with his son in law and, after a sham trial, beheaded them. Things were looking bad for Chancellor Kempe as history seemed to be about to repeat itself. He, however, responded by leading the citizens in resisting the rebels, driving them out of the city following a battle on London Bridge and dispersing Cade’s followers thus earning him further plaudits in the eyes of the king. John’s nephew Thomas would also become Bishop of London and, although he never attained the political heights of his uncle, he would nevertheless retain the role during the reigns of Henry VI, Edward IV, Edward V, Richard III and Henry VII. What neither John nor Thomas would recognise, however, would be the interior of St Bartholomew the Less. This was renovated by the Georgians in an airy and light Neo-Gothic style thus making it unsuitable for any later generations of film production scouts seeking a mediaeval location.

       
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(The Romanesque columns curving round the east ambulatory of Great St Bart’s, London. Its red brick Tudor exterior, sponsored by Edward VI’s Lord Chancellor Richard Rich, belies the 12th Century church inside.)


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(The tower of St Bartholomew the Less. Its bell frame holding its original mediaeval bells is believed to be the oldest in London.)

 
*After hundreds of years as a separate institution, the parish of St Bartholomew the Less was subsumed within that of St Bartholomew the Great in 2015.

**The unfortunate Lord High Treasurer during Jack Cade’s Rebellion was James Fiennes. A scion of his family is actor Joseph Fiennes who played William Shakespeare in the aforementioned 1998 film.
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptySat 04 Jun 2022, 23:39

One of my small pleasures in life is putting up a new photo each week on a Monday onto my computer screen using one particular year of photos and I love it when I get to the ones where we have had a trip to Britain (2004 and 2007 and 2011) - but there are too many places to choose from. At the moment I have one from Scotland in the floods that destroyed Boscastle (I think). But we also visited many lovely castles and stately homes.
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PostSubject: Re: Location, location, location   Location, location, location EmptySun 05 Jun 2022, 19:26

Another London church with a Wolf Hall connection is the church of the Augustinian Friary on the London street still known as Austin Friars. The original monastic church was build in the 14th century and among other burials it was the final resting place for the pretender Perkin Warbeck, executed on 23 November 1499 for claiming to be Richard of Shrewsbury, the younger of the Princes in the Tower.

Monastic houses in London often leased land within their precincts to secular tenants and the Augustinian friary was no different. Larger properties within the precinct were rented to important officials and dignitaries and in the first half of the 16th century these included the Holy Roman Emperor's ambassador, Eustace Chapuys, the French ambassador, and of course Thomas Cromwell. Cromwell obtained his first house there in the mid 1520s; a substantial property with fourteen rooms arranged in three wings with an attached garden and which was located just to the northwest of the church. In 1532, by which time Cromwell had become one of the key figures in Henry's court, he expanded his holdings at Austin Friars by purchasing several surrounding properties outright at considerable cost. He then had all these buildings converted to create a single residence which was one of the greatest private houses in London with over fifty rooms arranged around three courtyards all entered via an imposing ornate gateway. Following his downfall and execution the mansion was transferred to the royal household and then, three years later, was sold to the Drapers' Company. The building was destroyed in the Great Fire of 1666 but the Drapers' Company still have their administrative buildings on the same Austin Friars plot. Built in 1772 following another fire, their magnificent Drapers Livery Hall has been used as a film location including for The King's Speech and The Lost Prince.

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The Drapers Livery Hall built on the site of Cromwell's great house.

The rest of the friary had been dissolved on Cromwell's orders in November 1538 with the majority of the the remaining monastic buildings being acquired by Sir William Paulet, who like Cromwell built a grand town house on the site. The City of London attempted to buy the friary church from the Crown but they were repeatedly rebuffed. Then in 1550 London's community of "Germans and other strangers" was granted the use of the friary church's nave (the only bit of the church still standing) to conduct services, and it became the first official nonconformist chapel in England under its Polish-born minister Jan Łaski whose original congregation had been from Frisia (between Germany and the Netherlands) but was supplemented in London by numerous merchants and artisans of Flemish, Fresian and German descent. Accordingly the church became known as the Dutch Church. In this role the nave of the medieval church survived long after all the other friary buildings until finally being destroyed by a fire in 1862. A reconstructed church was built on the same site but was also destroyed, this time by German bombs in October 1940. The existing building was constructed between 1950 and 1956 but is still a Dutch reformed church with all its services conducted in the Dutch language. Curiously, because it was originally founded in 1550, it is actually the oldest Dutch-language Protestant church in the world and as such is known in the Netherlands as the mother church of all Dutch reformed churches.

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Viewed from the narrow street called Austin Friars this is the modern Dutch Reformed Church and the resting place of Perkin Warbeck if his unmarked grave has managed to survive the church being rebuilt three times. The Drapers' Company buildings on the site of Cromwell's house are behind the building to the left of the church with their main entrance being from the next street over (Throgmorton Avenue) in the direction of the big glass monstrosity.
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