Following the documentary I mentioned yesterday about Walsingham and on which Vizzer replied I watched today the one about the mysteries around Queen Elizabeth I. (downloaded it on the hard disc of my TV provider)
While the documentary was on ARTE (the French-German channel) the English spoken was dubbed in French, while one could hear on the background many times the English original. Not easy for a Dutch speaking one and even without French subtitles (if you click on the German speaking channel it is the same (German dubbing then and no subtitles))

So I have to hear it again, because there were all kind of questions for me as I don't know that very well the story of the Virgin Queen...as about Dudley and on a certain moment they started about William Shakespeare...???
Finally I found out that the original title was:
"The Virgin Queen's Fatal Affair" by Tom Cholmondeley
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3120454/
https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/045751-000-A/elisabeth-ire-les-secrets-de-la-reine-vierge/

And at the end I found a comment about the film and the conspiracy theories:

https://onthetudortrail.com/Blog/2010/11/28/the-virgin-queens-fatal-affair-who-killed-amy-robsart/

From the site:

"There has been much discussion of late about the recently aired (in the UK) documentary, The Virgin Queen’s Fatal Affair. Here is Channel 5 website’s description:
“Did a controversial love affair between Elizabeth I and her confidante Robert Dudley lead to a savage murder? This programme explores remarkable new evidence suggesting that Dudley’s wife, Amy Robsart, was assassinated so that her husband could be free to marry the Queen.”

"The death of Amy Robsart is one of the most famous unsolved mysteries of the Tudor period. Now for the first time, in this gripping account Chris Skidmore is able to put an end to centuries of speculation as to the true nature of Amy’s death. Death and the Virgin is both an investigation into an unsolved death and a vivid portrait of a remarkable and frenetic period in the life of the young Virgin Queen."


"I haven’t yet read the book or seen the documentary so I feel that I cannot yet totally commit myself to one theory or another. But my gut feeling is that Elizabeth and Dudley had nothing to do with Amy’s death and that if it was murder, it was someone attempting to discredit Dudley and ruin the prospects of him ever becoming Elizabeth’s husband. And he did, after all, have his fair share of enemies that would have rejoiced at the thought of him losing favour with the queen.Even with the coroner’s report, I cannot completely rule out it being an accident or suicide. I am very interested in hearing your thoughts. Murder, suicide or accident?"

I repeat the question of the site:
" I am very interested in hearing your thoughts. Murder, suicide or accident?"

Vizzer, Dirk Marinus?  And why not...nordmann?

I'd speculate that Amy's death (or more specifically the manner and conncomitant speculation theron) actually prevented any such marriage.

The bottom of the Tudor barrel has now been scraped so thin by what Channel 5 considers "historians" that it cannot hold water.

Green George is correct - if Dudley's wife was murdered it could only have been to stop him politically dead in his tracks, including any relationship with the queen designed to further his ambitions. However with Dudley there were umpteen other (and better) ways of achieving this goal. The queen's various manifestations of close entourage over her long reign were littered with political casualties and one sure-fire way of achieving this was to sow suspicion in her already near paranoid mind regarding the motives of those closest to her. It didn't take an assassination to achieve this. In fact it didn't even require a crime of any description - a simple piece of creative auditing of a courtier's private wealth submitted to Her Madge could be enough to land an individual in royal Coventry. Like her dad, one of the worst offences she could imagine involved diverting funds from her coffers to theirs, so individuals like Dudley - whose problematic access to funds was legendary even within the court - could be felled in an instant if it advanced someone else's political career to do so.

Robert and Amy's marriage, unique for their class at the time, was considered "carnal". In other words they married for love, or at least that was the assumption. He certainly didn't marry her for her wealth, and she certainly didn't get her hands on a sumptuous income in marrying him. They survived for a long time on hand-outs from their respective parents, and even when they inherited these parents' properties later struggled to make them pay - they ended up running two independent households in two different estates with a company set up by them to consolidate income and dole out a salary of manageable size to Dudley to keep his political career alive and to Amy to keep the domestic house in order. That was something which would have put a huge strain on any conventional marriage of convenience and was a dilemma which a man of Dudley's status could easily resolve through imaginative juggling of mistresses, annulment proceedings, a friendly abbess, and royal favour. He appeared to do none of these things.

A Channel 5 "history" programme in recent times employed an "art historian" and a "facial recognition software expert" to check portraits in the NPG in London for evidence of "love children". When they started waxing lyrical about Edward VI being the son of Mary Boleyn (those damn Tudors again) about five minutes into the programme I was relieved to find my remote control - after four minutes of searching around the sofa.

I borrowed Paul C Doherty's The Secret Life of Elizabeth I on library loan a few years ago and quite enjoyed it.  I don't think that book actually claimed Elizabeth HAD given birth but speculated on how such a birth might have been concealed if it had taken place.  P Doherty has decent credentials as a historian - a first class honours degree from Liverpool University and a doctorate from Exeter College, Oxford.  I've liked a number of P Doherty's historical murder mysteries.  They are formulaic but I must like the formula.  I tend to think that Lady Dudley's death was an unfortunate accident.