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PostSubject: Did ancient Greek philosophy corrupt Christianity?   Did ancient Greek philosophy corrupt Christianity? EmptySat 23 Mar 2024, 02:47

How did Greek philosophy like that of Diogenes managed to successfully severely corrupt Christianity? 


Ancient Greek ascetism led to medieval Christian monks and all of medieval Europe avoiding body comfort like bathing, etc. while Jews were the cleanest people in medieval Europe.
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PostSubject: Re: Did ancient Greek philosophy corrupt Christianity?   Did ancient Greek philosophy corrupt Christianity? EmptySun 24 Mar 2024, 12:46

You're assuming that Greek philosophy did "successfully severely corrupt Christianity." I'm very curious to hear how you came to that conclusion. (And also how you're coming up with your... varied questions).

As for bathing: Although some saints and public figures refrained from bathing, medieval people overall kept clean. Public bathhouses were commonplace in larger European cities. Soap was also generally accessible for this purpose. People may not have known germ theory, but they weren't stupid; keeping a good hygiene does make you less prone to certain diseases/infections and they were generally aware of that connection.

It wasn't until massive outbreaks of syphillis in Renaissance Europe that these bathhouses were closed.
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PostSubject: Re: Did ancient Greek philosophy corrupt Christianity?   Did ancient Greek philosophy corrupt Christianity? EmptySun 24 Mar 2024, 14:28

Well quite, Polydore: the medieval monasteries were generally pioneers in hygiene and sanitation, always being sited where there was ample, clean, constantly-running water to supply the kitchen, infirmary, latrines and bath-house. The food might often have been bland, the accommodation austere, the clothing simple and the rules strict, but the monasteries were anything but unclean places. Some hermits, anchorites and the individual members of extreme penitential sects - with their fondness for sackcloth, abstinence, self-denial and mortification of the flesh - might have been a bit scuzzy in their habits, but generally for the regular monastic orders personal cleanliness was very much next to godliness.

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It wasn't until massive outbreaks of syphillis in Renaissance Europe that these bathhouses were closed.

Agreed, although bathhouses had often also been shut down during the Black Death pandemic of 1348-50. It is interesting how much detailed emergency civic legislation needed to be passed in response to the 14th century Black Death: this alone surely shows just how important and widespread were civic bathhouses and laundries within medieval cities.

I like your upfront style Polydore. Welcome to reshistorica and I look forward to more discussions with you.
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